Also - let me just make a factual statement that I don’t know if either Ethan or Jason ever beat women, including their wives. I don’t know.
What I do know is that there is a great deal to be lost by both of you if it were ever to come out that you had, in fact, beat your wife. So naturally there would be a huge amount of resistance. Because if it were to come out that you’re personally responsible for destroying the lives of dozens of women or more innocent women hundreds of women depending on how many women you two know like you’re personally invested in not acknowledging any chance that that’s happened.
And so these guys are not thinking. If you start arguing with either of them, that’s going to go nowhere. Anyway, do your own research. We just don’t know if they beat their wives or not.
What preceded was me taking (word for word) what you said about doctors with vaccines and turning it into you beating your wives. You acknowledge that you don’t know what you’re talking about, but you then proceed to say that the doctor has a vested interest in being an unthinking person and not acknowledging their own atrocities. That’s unethical, that’s sinful. That’s as unfair to them as it would be for me to imply you might beat your wives based on my lack of evidence and your vested interest in that information not coming out.
And if you are offended by anything I just said - I will refer you to 38:30-39:00 of this very podcast, and remind you that you gave away any right to be offended by this at that exact moment.
Did Ethan’s wife ever explicitly ask the medical staff to direct all questions to him? In the absence of her explicitly giving that guidance, they would need to direct all questions to the legal decision-maker - her. You don’t just need medical power of attorney for them to do anything different, you’d need a conservatorship, and you haven’t gotten one.
Yes, medical staff are trained that is a red flag for domestic abuse. The probability of physical (not including emotional) domestic abuse in any marriage absent any context is already 20%. It stands to reason that conditional on the context that the husband makes all medical decisions for his pregnant wife without her input, that probability rises considerably (Bayesian statistics, look it up).
I’m sorry that you didn’t like how the experience made you feel. It sounds like the medical staff acted in accordance with their legal and ethical responsibilities. I wish you’d have asked the medical staff why they were behaving that way before putting them on blast for 20 minutes; sounds like it could have made you feel a lot better.
My wife and I were screaming into the phone, "IT'S EPIDURAL, EPIDURAL!!!!" Flashbacks to Dora the Explorer.
Also - let me just make a factual statement that I don’t know if either Ethan or Jason ever beat women, including their wives. I don’t know.
What I do know is that there is a great deal to be lost by both of you if it were ever to come out that you had, in fact, beat your wife. So naturally there would be a huge amount of resistance. Because if it were to come out that you’re personally responsible for destroying the lives of dozens of women or more innocent women hundreds of women depending on how many women you two know like you’re personally invested in not acknowledging any chance that that’s happened.
And so these guys are not thinking. If you start arguing with either of them, that’s going to go nowhere. Anyway, do your own research. We just don’t know if they beat their wives or not.
What preceded was me taking (word for word) what you said about doctors with vaccines and turning it into you beating your wives. You acknowledge that you don’t know what you’re talking about, but you then proceed to say that the doctor has a vested interest in being an unthinking person and not acknowledging their own atrocities. That’s unethical, that’s sinful. That’s as unfair to them as it would be for me to imply you might beat your wives based on my lack of evidence and your vested interest in that information not coming out.
And if you are offended by anything I just said - I will refer you to 38:30-39:00 of this very podcast, and remind you that you gave away any right to be offended by this at that exact moment.
Did Ethan’s wife ever explicitly ask the medical staff to direct all questions to him? In the absence of her explicitly giving that guidance, they would need to direct all questions to the legal decision-maker - her. You don’t just need medical power of attorney for them to do anything different, you’d need a conservatorship, and you haven’t gotten one.
Yes, medical staff are trained that is a red flag for domestic abuse. The probability of physical (not including emotional) domestic abuse in any marriage absent any context is already 20%. It stands to reason that conditional on the context that the husband makes all medical decisions for his pregnant wife without her input, that probability rises considerably (Bayesian statistics, look it up).
I’m sorry that you didn’t like how the experience made you feel. It sounds like the medical staff acted in accordance with their legal and ethical responsibilities. I wish you’d have asked the medical staff why they were behaving that way before putting them on blast for 20 minutes; sounds like it could have made you feel a lot better.